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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676296/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;This web site illustrates the need to tell the Coast Guard what is needed in new regulations for ballast water</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676296/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167&#8230;</a><br />This web site illustrates the need to tell the Coast Guard what is needed in new regulations for ballast water</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-18422</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676296/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;This web site illustrates the need to tell the Coast Guard what is needed in new regulations for ballast water</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1676296/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167&#8230;</a><br />This web site illustrates the need to tell the Coast Guard what is needed in new regulations for ballast water</p>
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		<title>By: Don Mitchel</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-18065</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Mitchel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir, Having read dialog from discussion by the house of representatives the day before h.r.3619 passed,  it is a bad day for our country when they describe how ballast water was omitted from this bill because  they were cognizant, that in the previous Congress the Senate was not able to address ballast water. Unfortunately this is true because in the previous Senate they considered shipping, being allowed to dump untreated water in our country, with human pathogens,virus,invasive,and the possibility of terrorist use as a states rights issue. Scientist know that new microbes will be released from Arctic ice melting and from mining and exploration in the deep Sea Bed, along with the new technologies able to create designer algae s capable of acting as hosts to pathogens and virus. Still our politicians do not mention this as a human health problem. It has been reported that the Senate is going to address the Law of the Sea Treaty soon. To not address these issues before they consider ratification will be locking our country in an agreement that will not protect our health and environment from destruction, but will allow for economic globalization to continue. &lt;br&gt;FROM the web site of the house- &quot; Last year, I worked closely with Chairman Oberstar to include a title on Ballast Water Management in the Coast Guard bill, which would have created a uniform national standard for ballast water treatment. The goal was to have no living organisms in ballast water discharged by ships after 2013.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although I would have liked this bill to once again include a provision on ballast water management, I am cognizant that this provision may be one of the reasons this bill has been held up in the Senate.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please let the Coast Guard know that although we are happy with their interest in ballast dumping, not to portray their forum as being representative of what the American people want. The will of the American people can only be expressed in our democracy through legislative efforts by our elected officials.&lt;br&gt;      Sincerely,&lt;br&gt;             Don Mitchel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir, Having read dialog from discussion by the house of representatives the day before h.r.3619 passed,  it is a bad day for our country when they describe how ballast water was omitted from this bill because  they were cognizant, that in the previous Congress the Senate was not able to address ballast water. Unfortunately this is true because in the previous Senate they considered shipping, being allowed to dump untreated water in our country, with human pathogens,virus,invasive,and the possibility of terrorist use as a states rights issue. Scientist know that new microbes will be released from Arctic ice melting and from mining and exploration in the deep Sea Bed, along with the new technologies able to create designer algae s capable of acting as hosts to pathogens and virus. Still our politicians do not mention this as a human health problem. It has been reported that the Senate is going to address the Law of the Sea Treaty soon. To not address these issues before they consider ratification will be locking our country in an agreement that will not protect our health and environment from destruction, but will allow for economic globalization to continue. <br />FROM the web site of the house- &#8221; Last year, I worked closely with Chairman Oberstar to include a title on Ballast Water Management in the Coast Guard bill, which would have created a uniform national standard for ballast water treatment. The goal was to have no living organisms in ballast water discharged by ships after 2013.</p>
<p>Although I would have liked this bill to once again include a provision on ballast water management, I am cognizant that this provision may be one of the reasons this bill has been held up in the Senate.&#8221; </p>
<p>Please let the Coast Guard know that although we are happy with their interest in ballast dumping, not to portray their forum as being representative of what the American people want. The will of the American people can only be expressed in our democracy through legislative efforts by our elected officials.<br />      Sincerely,<br />             Don Mitchel</p>
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		<title>By: h</title>
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		<dc:creator>h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sirs, Our Federal governments  believe that the IMO or the EPA are capable of policing the discharges of ballast water, by allowing foreign sea captains,to decide the water quality is  safe, is putting  people at risk for the next waterborne flue or pathogen to mutate and be passed around the world by ballast systems intentionally or unintentionally. African Swine Virus, cholera are examples of pathogens that thrive in marine brown algae. The day of designer algae,s is already here. One can only wonder what pathogens they could carry, if released into the environment.
Politicians will not address this issue because of economic domination due to lobbying, by the countries that supply our country with their manufactured products. These countries are keeping our largest employers(being retail) supplied, while holding our countries national debt along with large stakes in banks holding Americans mortgages. (are we free?) It must be noted that the Chinese. Koreans,and the Europeans have all established programs and goals to become the world leaders in shipping.  This has been happening while our 2008 senators that were running for president were not able to use their influence to consider ballast dumping a federal issue rather than a states rights issue.   I guess they think pathogens can understand the lines man draws on maps. Unfortunately many of the technologies used to clean ballast water could be altered to do more harm than good. Interesting that the house of representative voted 395-7 in favor of federal regulation. One can only wonder how much money and death can be associated with sickness and seasonal flues from pathogens in ballast water. It is paramount to treason that our politicians ignore and allow destruction to our countries environment, and peoples health, as a policy of economic globalization is pursued. Sincerely,
Don Mitchel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sirs, Our Federal governments  believe that the IMO or the EPA are capable of policing the discharges of ballast water, by allowing foreign sea captains,to decide the water quality is  safe, is putting  people at risk for the next waterborne flue or pathogen to mutate and be passed around the world by ballast systems intentionally or unintentionally. African Swine Virus, cholera are examples of pathogens that thrive in marine brown algae. The day of designer algae,s is already here. One can only wonder what pathogens they could carry, if released into the environment.<br />
Politicians will not address this issue because of economic domination due to lobbying, by the countries that supply our country with their manufactured products. These countries are keeping our largest employers(being retail) supplied, while holding our countries national debt along with large stakes in banks holding Americans mortgages. (are we free?) It must be noted that the Chinese. Koreans,and the Europeans have all established programs and goals to become the world leaders in shipping.  This has been happening while our 2008 senators that were running for president were not able to use their influence to consider ballast dumping a federal issue rather than a states rights issue.   I guess they think pathogens can understand the lines man draws on maps. Unfortunately many of the technologies used to clean ballast water could be altered to do more harm than good. Interesting that the house of representative voted 395-7 in favor of federal regulation. One can only wonder how much money and death can be associated with sickness and seasonal flues from pathogens in ballast water. It is paramount to treason that our politicians ignore and allow destruction to our countries environment, and peoples health, as a policy of economic globalization is pursued. Sincerely,<br />
Don Mitchel</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 10:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this normal for flu viruses to mutate into new strains (seemingly) every couple of years? I know it gives conspiracy kooks something new to accuse &quot;The New World Order&quot; of concocting to cause panic. Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this normal for flu viruses to mutate into new strains (seemingly) every couple of years? I know it gives conspiracy kooks something new to accuse &#8220;The New World Order&#8221; of concocting to cause panic. Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know norovirus was not isolated from those soldiers.&lt;br&gt;Norovirus causes gastroenteritis and that was not a common symptom;&lt;br&gt;respiratory disease was.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0965.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0965...&lt;/a&gt; for further information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know norovirus was not isolated from those soldiers.<br />Norovirus causes gastroenteritis and that was not a common symptom;<br />respiratory disease was.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0965.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0965&#8230;</a> for further information.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Gagné</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain Gagné</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a short reflection on the severity of swine influenza&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is too early to fully understand the current situation, But I would nevertheless draw your attention to the possibility that the very important pollution level and the high altitude of Mexico City (2,250 meters) can be partly responsible for the severity of swine influenza cases reported in Mexico. Remember that to date, all cases reported elsewhere in the world seem rather benign, or at least non-fatal. If this hypothesis is true, the severity of a pandemic outbreak may well be less severe than that suggests by the seriousness of the cases observed in Mexico City. Indeed, polluted cities such as Mexico City or located more than 2,000 meters are not numerous. I obviously do not know the nature of complications that resulted in the death of Mexican patients, but this knowledge could lead to a better understanding of how pollution and altitude should be considered as aggravating factors in the evolution of infection. Obviously, it is possible that the global death toll increase, but if, in the coming days, the severity of cases seen outside Mexico remains similar to what it is today and if it is confirmed that it is really the same viral strain, pollution and altitude could be important explanations of the current differential severity observed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alain Gagné,&lt;br&gt;biologist</description>
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<p>It is too early to fully understand the current situation, But I would nevertheless draw your attention to the possibility that the very important pollution level and the high altitude of Mexico City (2,250 meters) can be partly responsible for the severity of swine influenza cases reported in Mexico. Remember that to date, all cases reported elsewhere in the world seem rather benign, or at least non-fatal. If this hypothesis is true, the severity of a pandemic outbreak may well be less severe than that suggests by the seriousness of the cases observed in Mexico City. Indeed, polluted cities such as Mexico City or located more than 2,000 meters are not numerous. I obviously do not know the nature of complications that resulted in the death of Mexican patients, but this knowledge could lead to a better understanding of how pollution and altitude should be considered as aggravating factors in the evolution of infection. Obviously, it is possible that the global death toll increase, but if, in the coming days, the severity of cases seen outside Mexico remains similar to what it is today and if it is confirmed that it is really the same viral strain, pollution and altitude could be important explanations of the current differential severity observed.</p>
<p>Alain Gagné,<br />biologist</p>
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		<title>By: G. Hayduke</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Hayduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I emailed Dr. Siegel, the author of the blog article and ask him this: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you indicating that the recruit did not die of or have the swine flu virus? And if so can you direct me to the source of that information. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He responded as follows: &quot;Actually swine flu was isolated but the few who died were also found to have norovirus which in retrospect was the more likely cause of death&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emailed Dr. Siegel, the author of the blog article and ask him this: </p>
<p>Are you indicating that the recruit did not die of or have the swine flu virus? And if so can you direct me to the source of that information. </p>
<p>He responded as follows: &#8220;Actually swine flu was isolated but the few who died were also found to have norovirus which in retrospect was the more likely cause of death&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y dont we take a fast pick at it and wear breathing masks(plastic cup type thing) so every one is protected from the Virus.I mean virus get worse depending who the person is so fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y dont we take a fast pick at it and wear breathing masks(plastic cup type thing) so every one is protected from the Virus.I mean virus get worse depending who the person is so fair.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the information I have seen indicates that H1N1 swine flu virus was isolated from the recruit who died, and also from other ill soldiers at Fort Dix in 1976. See this 2006 article for an example: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/8cWEw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8cWEw&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the information I have seen indicates that H1N1 swine flu virus was isolated from the recruit who died, and also from other ill soldiers at Fort Dix in 1976. See this 2006 article for an example: <a href="http://bit.ly/8cWEw" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8cWEw</a></p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TWiV 29 was recorded just before this epidemic hit the fan, so we&#039;ll have a more in depth look this week. Unfortunately antivirals will be essential in controlling any epidemic, as there is no vaccine yet available, and that will only lead to resistance, since only two drugs are licensed. As for next season - I presume you mean in the northern hemisphere - it depends upon what happens in the next week or two. If the virus A/H1N1/Mexico/09 spreads in South America and Australia, then it&#039;s likely to come back here in the fall. A vaccine could be made in time for the fall season if it&#039;s begun in the next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TWiV 29 was recorded just before this epidemic hit the fan, so we&#39;ll have a more in depth look this week. Unfortunately antivirals will be essential in controlling any epidemic, as there is no vaccine yet available, and that will only lead to resistance, since only two drugs are licensed. As for next season &#8211; I presume you mean in the northern hemisphere &#8211; it depends upon what happens in the next week or two. If the virus A/H1N1/Mexico/09 spreads in South America and Australia, then it&#39;s likely to come back here in the fall. A vaccine could be made in time for the fall season if it&#39;s begun in the next month.</p>
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		<title>By: Swine flu returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swine flu returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of respiratory disease in Mexico City, New York City, and two locations in Canada. Clearly I was wrong in hypothesizing that the five mild cases in Texas and California reported last week were not a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of respiratory disease in Mexico City, New York City, and two locations in Canada. Clearly I was wrong in hypothesizing that the five mild cases in Texas and California reported last week were not a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: facebook-118321</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been keeping up with the news recently.  (I have no idea why that is!)  I received a few panicked phone calls this weekend regarding this &quot;new&quot; flu strain.  My first thought was to wonder if this particular species crossing frequently occurs, because it seems likely that it should.  Now we are better able to identify strains (faster, cheaper, better technology) than in the past and maybe this news is no cause for alarm.  It seems that my virology hunches weren&#039;t too far off.  I knew where to go for an expert opinion.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#39;t been keeping up with the news recently.  (I have no idea why that is!)  I received a few panicked phone calls this weekend regarding this &#8220;new&#8221; flu strain.  My first thought was to wonder if this particular species crossing frequently occurs, because it seems likely that it should.  Now we are better able to identify strains (faster, cheaper, better technology) than in the past and maybe this news is no cause for alarm.  It seems that my virology hunches weren&#39;t too far off.  I knew where to go for an expert opinion.  <img src='http://www.virology.ws/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: G. Hayduke</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/24/new-swine-influenza-viruses-in-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Hayduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We also need to be cautioned by the lessons of history. Back in 1976 an emerging swine flu virus appeared to be responsible for the death of a military recruit at Fort Dix (this later turned out to be erroneous), sparking a massive public hysteria fueled by Center for Disease Control press conferences.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The above is from an article (see link below). I have tried,without success,  to find confirmation of his assertion that the swine flu was not responsible for the death of the soldier at Fort Dix. In searching the web I came upon your blog and thought I would put the question to you. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/25/dr-marc-siegel-the-most-powerful-virus-is-fear-not-flu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/25/dr...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We also need to be cautioned by the lessons of history. Back in 1976 an emerging swine flu virus appeared to be responsible for the death of a military recruit at Fort Dix (this later turned out to be erroneous), sparking a massive public hysteria fueled by Center for Disease Control press conferences.&#8221;</p>
<p>The above is from an article (see link below). I have tried,without success,  to find confirmation of his assertion that the swine flu was not responsible for the death of the soldier at Fort Dix. In searching the web I came upon your blog and thought I would put the question to you. </p>
<p><a href="http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/25/dr-marc-siegel-the-most-powerful-virus-is-fear-not-flu/" rel="nofollow">http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/25/dr&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: ET</title>
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		<dc:creator>ET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was too little to remember the last time this happened, and given my interest and understanding (due in very large part to TWiV-so thank you for that) about this topic, I am wholly and utterly mesmerized by this entire course of events. Will our over vigilance in treating this lead to its becoming resistant quicker? Should this be considered a prime canidate for next winters flu season?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And most importantly, are we going to get a TWiV out of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was too little to remember the last time this happened, and given my interest and understanding (due in very large part to TWiV-so thank you for that) about this topic, I am wholly and utterly mesmerized by this entire course of events. Will our over vigilance in treating this lead to its becoming resistant quicker? Should this be considered a prime canidate for next winters flu season?</p>
<p>And most importantly, are we going to get a TWiV out of this?</p>
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