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	<title>Comments on: Origin of current influenza H1N1 virus</title>
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		<title>By: [Avian Flu Diary] Pseudo Pandemics And Viral Interlopers &#124; Influenza Virus Mashup</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-30016</link>
		<dc:creator>[Avian Flu Diary] Pseudo Pandemics And Viral Interlopers &#124; Influenza Virus Mashup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But that theory was turned on its head when, in 1977, H1N1 resurfaced. How and why it returned is a mystery, although many believe it was the result of an accidental release from a Russian or Chinese research laboratory (see Vince Racaniello’s&#160; Origin of current influenza H1N1 virus). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But that theory was turned on its head when, in 1977, H1N1 resurfaced. How and why it returned is a mystery, although many believe it was the result of an accidental release from a Russian or Chinese research laboratory (see Vince Racaniello’s&#160; Origin of current influenza H1N1 virus). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-28305</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2887442/?tool=pubmed
suggests that the virus was created in ~May 1976 , when labs were
unusually flu-active because of swine-flu</description>
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suggests that the virus was created in ~May 1976 , when labs were<br />
unusually flu-active because of swine-flu</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-28075</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent theory. this is the one that I myself truly believe in. The planet will go through its normal evolutionary changes&lt;a href=&quot;http://clickbankmaximizer.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet
  Marketing Blog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent theory. this is the one that I myself truly believe in. The planet will go through its normal evolutionary changes<a href="http://clickbankmaximizer.com/" rel="nofollow">Internet<br />
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-26780</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clicked &quot;like&quot; for this one too. So, dramatic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clicked &#8220;like&#8221; for this one too. So, dramatic!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-26779</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, i clicked &quot;like&quot; because you embody the wildest most dramatic* [this is key] post yet. Virology is too boring for you? Then you have the wrong type of imagination for any meaningful science comprehension. Virology can be amazing if you just open your heart to wonder! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, i clicked &#8220;like&#8221; because you embody the wildest most dramatic* [this is key] post yet. Virology is too boring for you? Then you have the wrong type of imagination for any meaningful science comprehension. Virology can be amazing if you just open your heart to wonder!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 07:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; 
I am a researcher &quot;  You mean you Google scary theories and random bits of science that strikes your fancy all day?</description>
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I am a researcher &#8221;  You mean you Google scary theories and random bits of science that strikes your fancy all day?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-26770</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow what a difference a year or two makes! These guys&#039; theories look as insane as they actually were at the time. It is just like those Xians who predict the end of the world in a coming year; then you get to gloat when their silliness did not pan out. LOL!! The anti-vaccine crowd are the truest of true religious believers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what a difference a year or two makes! These guys&#8217; theories look as insane as they actually were at the time. It is just like those Xians who predict the end of the world in a coming year; then you get to gloat when their silliness did not pan out. LOL!! The anti-vaccine crowd are the truest of true religious believers.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-21584</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From 1968 only H3N2 viruses circulated in humans. The appearance of&lt;br&gt;H1N1 in 1977 therefore constituted a shift because H1N1 viruses had&lt;br&gt;circulated since 1957.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 1968 only H3N2 viruses circulated in humans. The appearance of<br />H1N1 in 1977 therefore constituted a shift because H1N1 viruses had<br />circulated since 1957.</p>
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		<title>By: Masazumi Kawauchi</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-21583</link>
		<dc:creator>Masazumi Kawauchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give me virus!&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:m_kawauchi@enzantrades.jp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;m_kawauchi@enzantrades.jp&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give me virus!<br /><a href="mailto:m_kawauchi@enzantrades.jp" rel="nofollow">m_kawauchi@enzantrades.jp</a></p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-20923</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From 1968 only H3N2 viruses circulated in humans. The appearance of&lt;br&gt;H1N1 in 1977 therefore constituted a shift because H1N1 viruses had&lt;br&gt;circulated since 1957.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 1968 only H3N2 viruses circulated in humans. The appearance of<br />H1N1 in 1977 therefore constituted a shift because H1N1 viruses had<br />circulated since 1957.</p>
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		<title>By: runtun</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-20483</link>
		<dc:creator>runtun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You stated there was an antigenic shift in 1977. How can you be so sure there was a shift in 1977 when the RNA is so similar to that of a 1950 strain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You stated there was an antigenic shift in 1977. How can you be so sure there was a shift in 1977 when the RNA is so similar to that of a 1950 strain?</p>
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		<title>By: davidbaer</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidbaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about this. &lt;br&gt;If you really did find a working formula that made you, say $1,000 a week online on average and it kept producing income no matter what, would you want to sell that idea to a bunch of noobs for $47 a pop and expect to retire on the proceeds? No way, man! It does not compute. It does not add up. And it does not make any sense to do that. I certainly don’t go shouting from the rooftops how I make my money online. Hell, I don’t want the competition taking a slice of my pie and neither would anyone who really does make good cash online. &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.onlineuniversalwork.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about this. <br />If you really did find a working formula that made you, say $1,000 a week online on average and it kept producing income no matter what, would you want to sell that idea to a bunch of noobs for $47 a pop and expect to retire on the proceeds? No way, man! It does not compute. It does not add up. And it does not make any sense to do that. I certainly don’t go shouting from the rooftops how I make my money online. Hell, I don’t want the competition taking a slice of my pie and neither would anyone who really does make good cash online. <br /><a href="http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19841</link>
		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when we were promised vaccines in oct 09 and 4 to 5 thousand died as a result ..of that delay. who benefited from those who were infirm and died, because of neglect...... the insurance companies that reluctantly covered them .... now their bottom line looks better?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When there are men who would murder 90% of humanity to better there place.&lt;br&gt;When we can not take care of our own.&lt;br&gt;When we live in a production by slavery world&lt;br&gt;When the controlling elite think they know whats best… &lt;br&gt;When do they know best?  When they take and keep taking. When you have less and they have more.?&lt;br&gt;Think of the world you want and think of the world they want….&lt;br&gt;Who would want a culture of death? When we are by nature a culture of life. What is good what is bad.?&lt;br&gt;The corporation lives by rules of money (unnatural) without regard to humanity without care for all.! 6+bn&lt;br&gt;Human behavior ?&lt;br&gt;When we neglect when we destroy, when we murder&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The people who are making this world worse don’t take a day off why should I&quot;  Bob Marley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when we were promised vaccines in oct 09 and 4 to 5 thousand died as a result ..of that delay. who benefited from those who were infirm and died, because of neglect&#8230;&#8230; the insurance companies that reluctantly covered them &#8230;. now their bottom line looks better?</p>
<p>When there are men who would murder 90% of humanity to better there place.<br />When we can not take care of our own.<br />When we live in a production by slavery world<br />When the controlling elite think they know whats best… <br />When do they know best?  When they take and keep taking. When you have less and they have more.?<br />Think of the world you want and think of the world they want….<br />Who would want a culture of death? When we are by nature a culture of life. What is good what is bad.?<br />The corporation lives by rules of money (unnatural) without regard to humanity without care for all.! 6+bn<br />Human behavior ?<br />When we neglect when we destroy, when we murder</p>
<p>&#8220;The people who are making this world worse don’t take a day off why should I&#8221;  Bob Marley</p>
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		<title>By: Swine Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19578</link>
		<dc:creator>Swine Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know the economy effects of  the H1N1 Epidemic of 1977-1978. &lt;br&gt;    Thank you,&lt;br&gt;   Swine Gal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know the economy effects of  the H1N1 Epidemic of 1977-1978. <br />    Thank you,<br />   Swine Gal</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19416</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Influenza vaccine is typically effective for 1-2 seasons, after which&lt;br&gt;genetic drift has sufficiently changed the virus so a new vaccine must&lt;br&gt;be formulated. So the answer is, we use vaccines even against variable&lt;br&gt;viruses such as influenza because they do protect from disease for a&lt;br&gt;year or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Influenza vaccine is typically effective for 1-2 seasons, after which<br />genetic drift has sufficiently changed the virus so a new vaccine must<br />be formulated. So the answer is, we use vaccines even against variable<br />viruses such as influenza because they do protect from disease for a<br />year or two.</p>
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		<title>By: pkrat</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19415</link>
		<dc:creator>pkrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wud u get a vaccine for a rapidly Mutating Virus? its not going to do any good once the mutation occurs, So either then u will need another vaccine, or the vaccine was never intended to help in the first place. Can anyone explain this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wud u get a vaccine for a rapidly Mutating Virus? its not going to do any good once the mutation occurs, So either then u will need another vaccine, or the vaccine was never intended to help in the first place. Can anyone explain this?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19385</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Tabetha - i believe in Jesus, i am sure that &quot;rain, erosion ( see: carlos guevara)&quot;, and all natural phenomena are somehow related to the &quot;supernatural&quot;. &lt;br&gt;I have been afflicted by a lung disease, i am vacillating on whether i should get the vaccine or not. Shall i say out loud &quot;Jesus i believe..&quot; and ask my doctor to inject the drug? OK, i will do that right away. And i do not believe in conspiracy theories. The world takes care of itself. It will make the necessary corrections to counteract eventual malevolent &quot;backyard&quot; conspiracy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joseph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tabetha &#8211; i believe in Jesus, i am sure that &#8220;rain, erosion ( see: carlos guevara)&#8221;, and all natural phenomena are somehow related to the &#8220;supernatural&#8221;. <br />I have been afflicted by a lung disease, i am vacillating on whether i should get the vaccine or not. Shall i say out loud &#8220;Jesus i believe..&#8221; and ask my doctor to inject the drug? OK, i will do that right away. And i do not believe in conspiracy theories. The world takes care of itself. It will make the necessary corrections to counteract eventual malevolent &#8220;backyard&#8221; conspiracy.</p>
<p>Joseph</p>
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		<title>By: gsgs</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19217</link>
		<dc:creator>gsgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your estimate about my estimate is just a guess. I based it on what I read about the subject.&lt;br&gt;If scientists give no estimates (&quot;guesses&quot;) then we have to rely on the estimates&lt;br&gt;from the journalists and actuaries. Do you want that ?&lt;br&gt;What for do we have the scientists if not for estimating the future ? &lt;br&gt;If any such estimates were useless then so were all the writings an&lt;br&gt;papers about it. Simple logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your estimate about my estimate is just a guess. I based it on what I read about the subject.<br />If scientists give no estimates (&#8220;guesses&#8221;) then we have to rely on the estimates<br />from the journalists and actuaries. Do you want that ?<br />What for do we have the scientists if not for estimating the future ? <br />If any such estimates were useless then so were all the writings an<br />papers about it. Simple logic.</p>
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		<title>By: gsgs</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19216</link>
		<dc:creator>gsgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lots of seasonal flu in California at that time. First confirmed mexflu is from&lt;br&gt;February,24 in Potosi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of seasonal flu in California at that time. First confirmed mexflu is from<br />February,24 in Potosi</p>
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		<title>By: Just_another_opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-19211</link>
		<dc:creator>Just_another_opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, I had symptoms and was sick and had to cancel a flight to Mexico, from California, two weeks prior to the announcement of the swine flu, later named H1N1, blaming Mexico as the place of origin, which I doubt very much is the case. I would pick the US, and California before Mexico as the place of origin and Asia could be the source country; having traveled around the world for over 40 years, and I specifically started traveling to Mexico in the early 60&#039;s, and to China in the late 70&#039;s, traveling back and forth numerous times, conducting business in both countries, leads me to believe Mexico is probably a scape coat situation, just a guess... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My question is; How do you know it is NOT a &quot;Mexico type&quot;strain? If that is the case, then from what I have read in this blog,  it may have been a stored strain and was accidently released or whatever from a lab. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note: There are journals written that indicate that the US gov released a swine flu strain in the 70&#039;s or early 80&#039;s as I recall, to learn how long it would take the strain to travel across the States, testing it on US citizens for biological warefare data, protected under national security guises, which basically means that US citizens can be used a guinea pigs for national security protections and causes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems more plausible to be an old strain, stored in a lab, that was released; when, how, for what reason, who knows and who cares, its here, so avoid contact with anyone that is sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I had symptoms and was sick and had to cancel a flight to Mexico, from California, two weeks prior to the announcement of the swine flu, later named H1N1, blaming Mexico as the place of origin, which I doubt very much is the case. I would pick the US, and California before Mexico as the place of origin and Asia could be the source country; having traveled around the world for over 40 years, and I specifically started traveling to Mexico in the early 60&#39;s, and to China in the late 70&#39;s, traveling back and forth numerous times, conducting business in both countries, leads me to believe Mexico is probably a scape coat situation, just a guess&#8230; </p>
<p>My question is; How do you know it is NOT a &#8220;Mexico type&#8221;strain? If that is the case, then from what I have read in this blog,  it may have been a stored strain and was accidently released or whatever from a lab. </p>
<p>Note: There are journals written that indicate that the US gov released a swine flu strain in the 70&#39;s or early 80&#39;s as I recall, to learn how long it would take the strain to travel across the States, testing it on US citizens for biological warefare data, protected under national security guises, which basically means that US citizens can be used a guinea pigs for national security protections and causes. </p>
<p>It seems more plausible to be an old strain, stored in a lab, that was released; when, how, for what reason, who knows and who cares, its here, so avoid contact with anyone that is sick.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting idea, certainly with merit. I plan to write a post&lt;br&gt;on that article this week.</description>
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		<title>By: goody</title>
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		<dc:creator>goody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you have no life at all ecspacially the faggot who wrote the freakin essay as reply. None of this is interesting and you will all die cold and alone in your mothers basement</description>
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		<title>By: John Charlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Charlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Racaniello,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is your reaction to the recent article in Virology, on the origin of the Swine Flu&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virologyj.com/content/6/1/207&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.virologyj.com/content/6/1/207&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;by Drs. Gibbs &amp; company....</description>
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<p>What is your reaction to the recent article in Virology, on the origin of the Swine Flu</p>
<p><a href="http://www.virologyj.com/content/6/1/207" rel="nofollow">http://www.virologyj.com/content/6/1/207</a></p>
<p>by Drs. Gibbs &#038; company&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Esam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fk u</description>
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		<title>By: mollymcphee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mollymcphee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H1N1  Spanish influenza 1918...yes WE HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H1N1  Spanish influenza 1918&#8230;yes WE HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, but wouldn&#039;t you rather live for 70-80 years rather than 30?</description>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18512</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm, just a thought from a common lay person.. WE&#039;RE ALL GOING TO DIE ANYWAY....!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Woop</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18460</link>
		<dc:creator>Woop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said the steel needed to melt for the building to collapse? I&#039;m pretty sure a steel rod will break long before it melts.</description>
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		<title>By: Woop</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18462</link>
		<dc:creator>Woop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out this patent. It&#039;s not a &quot;swine flu vaccine&quot; patent as some people have claimed. It&#039;s just a patent for another way of developing a viral vaccine. I have no idea how common this is, so I can&#039;t comment too deeply on its significance, but it doesn&#039;t seem sinister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out this patent. It&#39;s not a &#8220;swine flu vaccine&#8221; patent as some people have claimed. It&#39;s just a patent for another way of developing a viral vaccine. I have no idea how common this is, so I can&#39;t comment too deeply on its significance, but it doesn&#39;t seem sinister.</p>
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		<title>By: Woop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out this patent. It&#039;s not a &quot;swine flu vaccine&quot; patent as some people have claimed. It&#039;s just a patent for another way of developing a viral vaccine. I have no idea how common this is, so I can&#039;t comment too deeply on its significance, but it doesn&#039;t seem sinister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out this patent. It&#39;s not a &#8220;swine flu vaccine&#8221; patent as some people have claimed. It&#39;s just a patent for another way of developing a viral vaccine. I have no idea how common this is, so I can&#39;t comment too deeply on its significance, but it doesn&#39;t seem sinister.</p>
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		<title>By: lilaaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilaaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will someone tell me wat is a origin h1n1 will someone please.. im at skool and i need dis answer..</description>
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		<title>By: jbones</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Roger what a breath of fresh air you are. &lt;br&gt;Baxter gets a patent for a virus six months before H1N1 actually rears its ugly head in a moutainous city in Mexico on the same day the U.S. Commander in Chief pays a visit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe it is the same miraculous coincidence that the previous C in C has a brother Marvin who&#039;s security company retire their position a couple of days before a couple of aircraft  (from airlines also under the security of Marvin&#039;s company) smack into the WTC  spewing lethal kerosene that can melt steel causing the buildings to fall down. Wow! I wish my Kero-Sun heater could do that.&lt;br&gt;I always found when trying to melt steel that you needed Oxygen (and plentyof it)  to get a fuel hot enough to accomplish that. I wonder how you find that much oxygen that would keep spewing black smoke for some time  before lethally beginning a trek through a hermaticlly sealed shaft to the basement. And the pasport visa survived.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My, my, how I love coincidences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Roger what a breath of fresh air you are. <br />Baxter gets a patent for a virus six months before H1N1 actually rears its ugly head in a moutainous city in Mexico on the same day the U.S. Commander in Chief pays a visit.</p>
<p>Maybe it is the same miraculous coincidence that the previous C in C has a brother Marvin who&#39;s security company retire their position a couple of days before a couple of aircraft  (from airlines also under the security of Marvin&#39;s company) smack into the WTC  spewing lethal kerosene that can melt steel causing the buildings to fall down. Wow! I wish my Kero-Sun heater could do that.<br />I always found when trying to melt steel that you needed Oxygen (and plentyof it)  to get a fuel hot enough to accomplish that. I wonder how you find that much oxygen that would keep spewing black smoke for some time  before lethally beginning a trek through a hermaticlly sealed shaft to the basement. And the pasport visa survived.</p>
<p>My, my, how I love coincidences.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: JuJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But where did it originate from???</description>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If russia or china released the H1N1 virus.... can they be held accountable for the spread and  cost of vaccine ?</description>
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		<title>By: RogerV</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satinder Singh looks to have copied this article near verbatim from this posting:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Startling New Evidence That The &#039;Swine Flu&#039; Pandemic Is Man-Made&lt;br&gt;Novartis Patent Detailed And Mass Murder Charged&lt;br&gt;By A. True Ott, PhD, ND&lt;br&gt;7-26-9&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rense.com/general86/manmd.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rense.com/general86/manmd.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satinder Singh looks to have copied this article near verbatim from this posting:</p>
<p>Startling New Evidence That The &#39;Swine Flu&#39; Pandemic Is Man-Made<br />Novartis Patent Detailed And Mass Murder Charged<br />By A. True Ott, PhD, ND<br />7-26-9<br /><a href="http://rense.com/general86/manmd.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rense.com/general86/manmd.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>August 1, 2009&lt;br&gt;New Evidence: That The ‘Swine Flu’ Pandemic Is Man-Made&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daily.pk/7780/new-evidence-that-the-%E2%80%98swine-flu%E2%80%99-pandemic-is-man-made/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.daily.pk/7780/new-evidence-that-the-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Filed under: World — Tags: flu, Pandemic, swine flu — Satinder SINGH @ 7:36 am&lt;br&gt;Murder suspects are either convicted or acquitted at trial based on the prosecution’s presentation of EVIDENCE which usually hinges on MOTIVE, OPPORTUNITY, and TIME-LINES combined with physical documents. To gather such hard evidence, detectives and/or federal agents often spend months following leads and interviewing witnesses. In the trial phase, re-creating the sequence of events is essential. I submit this paper will provide more than enough hard evidence to at least result in a series of criminal indictments of charges of MASS MURDER, and CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT WORLD GENOCIDE against Novartis Pharmaceutical principals and agents and others.&lt;br&gt;PRIMARY MOTIVE&lt;br&gt;The Primary Motive behind this alleged criminal activity is also the primary cause of most murders in the world today, and that motivation is simply: BIG MONEY. Billions of Dollars of windfall profits from government contracts worldwide, as a matter of fact.&lt;br&gt;I will provide evidence that will show that Novartis Pharmaceuticals of Basel, Switzerland has conspired with corrupt “scientists” at the U.S. Army Institute of Pathology  Ft. Detrick, Maryland, to create a “novel” strain of weaponized “influenza” virus by means of “reverse engineering” the deadly 1918 killer strain  which strain was maliciously and surreptitiously released upon the world in March and April of 2009 for the primary purpose of creating a panic-stricken world-wide demand for Novartis vaccine material.&lt;br&gt;The evidence will also clearly show that the Novartis vaccine material is in reality designed to facilitate the further mutation of the pandemic into more lethal waves of increasingly virulent and deadly disease, rather than to curtail and limit the existing outbreak. The evidence will show that Novartis is willingly being used, (and extremely well-paid) to facilitate the edicts of the global elite’s Club of Rome; which edicts clearly call for a massive and sudden depopulation of certain segments of the earth’s human population.&lt;br&gt;PRIMARY EVIDENCE&lt;br&gt;To realize such windfall profits on an engineered, global flu pandemic, detailed covert planning must take place of course.&lt;br&gt;Patents protecting the proprietary flu vaccine must be applied for and secured before the pandemic virus is released in order to minimize the competition and maximize the profit potentials. In a biological attack of this nature, timing is extremely critical.&lt;br&gt;Indeed, the evidence is clear  Novartis applied for just such a patent on Nov. 4, 2005, and the U.S. Patent Office accepted this application and granted US 20090047353A1 for a “Split Influenza Vaccine with Adjuvants” on February 19, 2009. (See bottom of page).&lt;br&gt;With this patent now secured, the conspirators were now free to create the demand for their “novel” split influenza vaccine by releasing a “novel” split-influenza (combining multiple viruses) pandemic virus from a weapons lab test-tube into unsuspecting human hosts. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/17/AR2009061703271.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;The so-called “Swine Flu” grabbing headlines today is actually a recombinant, or “split-influenza” virus consisting of A-strain Bird-Flu (H5N1), Swine Flu (H1N1) and multiple strains of human flu (H3N2). Likewise, the 1918 Killer Flu that killed untold millions of people was a recombinant or “split-influenza” virus composed of Bird flu, Swine Flu, and multiple strains of human flu.&lt;br&gt;CRIMINAL TIMELINE&lt;br&gt;The criminal timeline begins in 1997, when Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger assembled a team of geneticists and microbiologists to analyze the genome structure, and then to REPRODUCE (i.e. reverse engineer) what is arguably one of the most deadly viral structures the world has ever been cursed with  the 1918 killer flu virus. According to numerous published stories and reports, Taubenberger and his team utilized super-computers to map the complex RNA and DNA structures of the killer virus, then utilized human plasmids to successfully re-create the 1918 killer. Taubenberger completed his work in early 2005, then immediately left the employ of the U.S. Army at Ft. Detrick to take a much more lucrative position with the National Institutes of Health. His new focus was to create a VACCINE against the very same 1918 killer flu that he and his team had, just months earlier, successfully “reverse engineered” and created.&lt;br&gt;This researcher is very confident that a focused criminal investigation would likely reveal prima facia evidence that Taubenberger was in reality working for Novartis while employed with the N.I.H.  and was quite likely the primary author of Novartis’ Nov. 6, 2005 “provisional” patent application. On page 2, paragraph 32 of the patent publication we read, quote: “The influenza virus [that the &#039;invention vaccine&#039; is designed to protect against] may be a reassortant strain, and may have been obtained by reverse genetics techniques. Reverse genetics techniques allow influenza viruses with desired genome segments to be prepared in vitro using plasmids.” The remnant of the paragraph then goes into very specific detail as to the actual mechanics of how the pandemic virus was actually created by Taubenberger’s Ft. Detrick team. At the very least, the author of the patent application had to have studied Taubenberger’s various published reports on his work at Detrick, for the wording and science is virtually verbatim.&lt;br&gt;Furthermore, this paragraph is even more damning by the words “may have been obtained”. Who “obtained” this virus and for what reason was it “obtained”? Keep in mind the CDC and HHS would have Americans believe that the pandemic viral outbreak is totally a “natural” occurrence  if so then how could Novartis have such an incredible advance knowledge to the point of developing a vaccine with such absolutely PERFECT TIMING???&lt;br&gt;WHO EXACTLY IS “NOVARTIS”??&lt;br&gt;Novartis International AG is simply the world’s largest, multi-national pharmaceutical company with over $53 Billion USD revenue generated in 2008. It’s headquarters is located in Basel, Switzerland, home of the vaunted “Swiss Guards” who provide all security measures for the Vatican and the Club of Rome. The company logo symbolizes the “eternal flame” of the Illuminati “enlightened ones”. Dig into Novartis International AG’s long history, and one finds that it began as a component of the infamous I.G. Farben combine, which in turn was primarily responsible for the rise of Adolph Hitler and the German/Austrian Third Reich.&lt;br&gt;Dig a bit deeper and you find that Novartis also wholly owns a company called Sandoz  which was the inventor of LSD and other strong hallucinogenic “truth” drugs, and was the supplier of LSD to the CIA allowing them to scale new heights with their covert “MK ULTRA” mind control experiments. Documents released to U.S. Congressional investigators in 1977 show that Sandoz Labs had arranged for certain Nazi scientists to gain new identities in Allen Dulles’ CIA at the conclusion of WWII. This was accomplished under a secret extraction program called “Operation Paper Clip”.&lt;br&gt;The address listed on the Novartis Patent applications is a P.O. Box in Emeryville, California. Up until the summer of 2005, this Emeryville California address belonged to Chiron Inc.  the world’s second-largest INFLUENZA VACCINE MANUFACTURER. Chiron was doing very well, with reported sales of $357 million in fiscal 2002. Chiron’s sales nearly doubled, peaking at a whopping $678 million in 2003  and it was mostly due to the marketing and sale of FLU VACCINE CONTRACTS to the federal government. Novartis, which owned much of Chiron’s stock, was very pleased, until disaster struck in 2004 — the entire year’s stock of flu vaccine was found to be contaminated and was condemned.&lt;br&gt;Stock values plummeted on the news. With the stock at a historic low, Novartis quickly purchased the remainder of Chiron’s stock and began immediately to work on the massive “novel pandemic flu” vaccine that they somehow knew would soon have worldwide demand  especially if they controlled the exclusive patent they could effectively “corner the pandemic flu vaccine market”!!&lt;br&gt;OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES&lt;br&gt;I would submit that killing tens of thousands of innocent humans via the systemic creation of a “pandemic” in order to make billions of dollars is vile enough, but there is also evidence that there is an even more heinous hidden agenda at work here, and it is spelled GENOCIDE.&lt;br&gt;It is no mystery that Adolph Hitler advocated the elevation of a Nordic “Master Race” that would rule the world in a “New Order of the Ages” called the “Third Reich”. Sadly, not all of the EUGENIC/GENOCIDAL National Socialists were executed at Nuremburg.&lt;br&gt;In reality, the elite financiers that actually dictated the agenda to Hitler, merely went underground, willing to bide their time until their godless agenda to liquidate BILLIONS of people could be successfully implemented.&lt;br&gt;The evidence that the Novartis-controlled “Pandemic Vaccine” may well be a tool of mass genocide, is actually quite overwhelming.&lt;br&gt;At this point, some readers may scoff and ask: “Why would any company want to kill off their customers?” The answer is that these “customers” control large blocks of assets and equity. As Kissinger’s “NSSM-200″ report outlines, the “spoils” of genocide include controlling large tracts of land and mineral assets. This is secondary, of course, to their warped dream of creating a Utopian World Order with only 500 million “worthy” humans allowed to share in it.&lt;br&gt;WHAT’S THE EVIDENCE?&lt;br&gt;While George H.W. Bush was busy saving the world from the evil dictator Saddam Hussein in 1991, pursuant to his U.N. speech to create a “new world order” an agenda for an “Initiative for Eco-92 Earth Charter” elitist meeting happened to fall into honest, Christian hands. This agenda basically reiterated the genocide outlined in Henry Kissinger’s infamous NSSM-200 report of 1974, and called for “the immediate reduction of world population.” The entire report can be downloaded at:&lt;br&gt;My extensive research shows that by 1992, the massive death rate of AIDS had simply not materialized to the Elite’s satisfaction, and a more efficient mass killer had to be engineered in order to fulfill the edicts cut into the “Georgia Guidestones”.&lt;br&gt;Evidence shows that like the 2009 “Novel” Flu Virus the HIV virus was also engineered and manufactured in the labs of Ft. Detrick.&lt;br&gt;In 1969, during a House Appropriations Committee hearing, the Defense Department’s Biological Warfare (BW) division at Ft. Detrick requested funds to develop, through complex gene-splicing (i.e. genetic engineering) a “novel” new disease that would both be resistant to, and break down a victim’s immune system. The Congressional Record reads:&lt;br&gt;“Within the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases.”&lt;br&gt;The funds for this “Dr. Strangelove” project were somehow approved. AIDS “magically” appeared within the requested time frame, and of course, just happens to exhibit the exact characteristics specified by the Ft. Detrick scientists.&lt;br&gt;Three years later, in 1972, the fledgling World Health Organization (WHO) published a very similar proposal to the one submitted to the U.S. House Appropriations Committee in 1969. The WHO proposed that: “An attempt should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function, e.g., by …affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function. The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the immune cells responding to the viral antigens.” (Bulletin of the W.H.O., vol. 47, p 257- 274.) This is a “textbook” clinical description of the function of the HIV/AIDS virus.&lt;br&gt;The W.H.O. shortly thereafter begins a massive “smallpox vaccination” program in Africa in 1975. Within two years, millions of smallpox vaccines are provided by Novartis et. al, under U.N.I.C.E.F. funding. A decade later, it is determined by independent journalists in the U.K. that the incidence of AIDS infections’ MAPPED AND GRAPHED EPICENTERS in Africa coincided exactly with the locations of the W.H.O. smallpox vaccination program centers in the mid-1970’s (Source, The London Times, May 11, 1987). Some 14,000 Haitians then on UN ‘humanitarian missions’ to Central Africa were also vaccinated in this campaign, and soon contracted HIV. Personnel actually conducting the vaccinations of the Haitians maintain they had been completely unaware that the vaccine was anything other than a routine shot.&lt;br&gt;In 1987, Dr. Hilleman, head of all vaccine production of Merck Pharmaceuticals stunned the world with his public admissions that the mass vaccination campaigns of the 1950s and ’60s likely caused thousands of cancer deaths each year. This was due to the presence of a cancer-causing virus that contaminated the first polio vaccine, according to Dr. Hilleman. Known as SV40, the virus originated from dead monkeys whose kidney cells were used to culture the first Salk vaccines. Doctors estimate that the virus was injected into tens of millions during the vaccination campaigns, including several million in Canada, before being detected and screened out in 1963. Those born between 1941 and 1961 are thought to be most at risk of having been infected with SV40, and are estimated to have a 300% greater chance of developing cancer. According to Hilleman MERCK KNEW THE VACCINES WERE INFECTED WITH SV40, but distributed them anyway. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Furthermore, research doctors in New Orleans reported in 1963 that a percentage of the Salk polio vaccines were found to have attenuated, (live) viruses, which actually CAUSED tens of thousands of polio cases during the 1950’s.&lt;br&gt;Following the successful liberation of Kuwait in Operation Desert Storm, hundreds of thousands of victorious American troops are suddenly stricken with a wide variety of auto-immune disorders that doctors named the Gulf War Syndrome, (GWS). After a decade of medical investigation, the culprit is finally determined to be an ingredient in the anthrax vaccinations mandatorily given to the troops. This offending “adjuvant” is a synthetic material known as squalene  aka, oil-in-water adjuvant. Writer and Gulf War correspondent Gary Matsumoto documents this entire, tragic saga in his seminal book, “Vaccine-A”. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vaccine-a.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.vaccine-a.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;Understanding these historical facts is very important for this reason: Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. This is doubly true when it comes to blindly accepting a “novel” mass vaccination for a weaponized, “reverse engineered” virus.&lt;br&gt;The historical record is very clear  attenuated, live viruses in vaccines SPREAD the disease very effectively. When combined with SQUALENE ADJUVANT  the virus becomes many times more potent and lethal. When given to CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS, millions of “typhoid Matts and Marys” will be spreading the disease exponentially.&lt;br&gt;Chillingly, the Novartis patent for the “novel pandemic flu” declares that “African green monkey kidney cells” will be used for the “viral growth substrate”  i.e. the carrier medium.&lt;br&gt;(Page 3, paragraph 0037) We also see that “oil-in-water” squalene-based adjuvants will also be included (page 8 ¬ 0098) but most incredible of all, because this is a “recombinant” and “novel” split vaccine, it is deemed necessary to include fragments of attenuated viruses (i.e. live pathogens) in the vaccine medium.&lt;br&gt;On July 13, 2009, the W.H.O. sanctioned this lunacy by declaring: “In view of the anticipated limited vaccine availability at global level and the potential need to protect against “drifted” strains of virus, it is recommended that promoting production and use of vaccines such as those that are formulated with oil-in-water adjuvants and live attenuated influenza vaccines is important.”&lt;br&gt;In conclusion and summation, it should be evident that the “2009 Swine Flu” could just as easily be called the “Bird Flu”  because it is as much H5N1 (bird flu) as H1N1 (pig flu.) Novartis knew this in 2005 when it received hundreds of millions of dollars from Mike Leavitt’s HHS to develop and patent the “bird flu” vaccine. I publicly charge that Novartis had advance knowledge of this “combination” because they had been in consultation with Jeffrey Taubenberger for years.&lt;br&gt;It is further evident that Novartis’ patent provides for “influenza vaccine kits” to be provided to other pharmaceutical manufacturers as well. These “kits” are the basic raw ingredients needed for the other companies to build their own vaccines under their own label.&lt;br&gt;In 2005, this “jobbing” of separate ingredients by multiple companies would never have been allowed because of the legal liability issues involved. However, in 2009, all liabilities for death and disability from faulty or contaminated vaccines have been stripped away. Any wrongful death or disability lawsuits against Novartis or any other company will today be summarily dismissed.&lt;br&gt;Novartis today has carte blanche blanket immunity for their actions  and any large pharmaceutical company who so desires, can join them at the feeding troughs just by paying millions for their “kits”.&lt;br&gt;If this isn’t the pinnacle of criminality, then I don’t know what is.&lt;br&gt;Novartis, if this “novel split vaccine” is so wonderful and safe, why do you require such blanket protection from litigation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>August 1, 2009<br />New Evidence: That The ‘Swine Flu’ Pandemic Is Man-Made<br /><a href="http://www.daily.pk/7780/new-evidence-that-the-%E2%80%98swine-flu%E2%80%99-pandemic-is-man-made/" rel="nofollow">http://www.daily.pk/7780/new-evidence-that-the-&#8230;</a><br />Filed under: World — Tags: flu, Pandemic, swine flu — Satinder SINGH @ 7:36 am<br />Murder suspects are either convicted or acquitted at trial based on the prosecution’s presentation of EVIDENCE which usually hinges on MOTIVE, OPPORTUNITY, and TIME-LINES combined with physical documents. To gather such hard evidence, detectives and/or federal agents often spend months following leads and interviewing witnesses. In the trial phase, re-creating the sequence of events is essential. I submit this paper will provide more than enough hard evidence to at least result in a series of criminal indictments of charges of MASS MURDER, and CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT WORLD GENOCIDE against Novartis Pharmaceutical principals and agents and others.<br />PRIMARY MOTIVE<br />The Primary Motive behind this alleged criminal activity is also the primary cause of most murders in the world today, and that motivation is simply: BIG MONEY. Billions of Dollars of windfall profits from government contracts worldwide, as a matter of fact.<br />I will provide evidence that will show that Novartis Pharmaceuticals of Basel, Switzerland has conspired with corrupt “scientists” at the U.S. Army Institute of Pathology  Ft. Detrick, Maryland, to create a “novel” strain of weaponized “influenza” virus by means of “reverse engineering” the deadly 1918 killer strain  which strain was maliciously and surreptitiously released upon the world in March and April of 2009 for the primary purpose of creating a panic-stricken world-wide demand for Novartis vaccine material.<br />The evidence will also clearly show that the Novartis vaccine material is in reality designed to facilitate the further mutation of the pandemic into more lethal waves of increasingly virulent and deadly disease, rather than to curtail and limit the existing outbreak. The evidence will show that Novartis is willingly being used, (and extremely well-paid) to facilitate the edicts of the global elite’s Club of Rome; which edicts clearly call for a massive and sudden depopulation of certain segments of the earth’s human population.<br />PRIMARY EVIDENCE<br />To realize such windfall profits on an engineered, global flu pandemic, detailed covert planning must take place of course.<br />Patents protecting the proprietary flu vaccine must be applied for and secured before the pandemic virus is released in order to minimize the competition and maximize the profit potentials. In a biological attack of this nature, timing is extremely critical.<br />Indeed, the evidence is clear  Novartis applied for just such a patent on Nov. 4, 2005, and the U.S. Patent Office accepted this application and granted US 20090047353A1 for a “Split Influenza Vaccine with Adjuvants” on February 19, 2009. (See bottom of page).<br />With this patent now secured, the conspirators were now free to create the demand for their “novel” split influenza vaccine by releasing a “novel” split-influenza (combining multiple viruses) pandemic virus from a weapons lab test-tube into unsuspecting human hosts. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/17/AR2009061703271.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar&#8230;</a><br />The so-called “Swine Flu” grabbing headlines today is actually a recombinant, or “split-influenza” virus consisting of A-strain Bird-Flu (H5N1), Swine Flu (H1N1) and multiple strains of human flu (H3N2). Likewise, the 1918 Killer Flu that killed untold millions of people was a recombinant or “split-influenza” virus composed of Bird flu, Swine Flu, and multiple strains of human flu.<br />CRIMINAL TIMELINE<br />The criminal timeline begins in 1997, when Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger assembled a team of geneticists and microbiologists to analyze the genome structure, and then to REPRODUCE (i.e. reverse engineer) what is arguably one of the most deadly viral structures the world has ever been cursed with  the 1918 killer flu virus. According to numerous published stories and reports, Taubenberger and his team utilized super-computers to map the complex RNA and DNA structures of the killer virus, then utilized human plasmids to successfully re-create the 1918 killer. Taubenberger completed his work in early 2005, then immediately left the employ of the U.S. Army at Ft. Detrick to take a much more lucrative position with the National Institutes of Health. His new focus was to create a VACCINE against the very same 1918 killer flu that he and his team had, just months earlier, successfully “reverse engineered” and created.<br />This researcher is very confident that a focused criminal investigation would likely reveal prima facia evidence that Taubenberger was in reality working for Novartis while employed with the N.I.H.  and was quite likely the primary author of Novartis’ Nov. 6, 2005 “provisional” patent application. On page 2, paragraph 32 of the patent publication we read, quote: “The influenza virus [that the &#39;invention vaccine&#39; is designed to protect against] may be a reassortant strain, and may have been obtained by reverse genetics techniques. Reverse genetics techniques allow influenza viruses with desired genome segments to be prepared in vitro using plasmids.” The remnant of the paragraph then goes into very specific detail as to the actual mechanics of how the pandemic virus was actually created by Taubenberger’s Ft. Detrick team. At the very least, the author of the patent application had to have studied Taubenberger’s various published reports on his work at Detrick, for the wording and science is virtually verbatim.<br />Furthermore, this paragraph is even more damning by the words “may have been obtained”. Who “obtained” this virus and for what reason was it “obtained”? Keep in mind the CDC and HHS would have Americans believe that the pandemic viral outbreak is totally a “natural” occurrence  if so then how could Novartis have such an incredible advance knowledge to the point of developing a vaccine with such absolutely PERFECT TIMING???<br />WHO EXACTLY IS “NOVARTIS”??<br />Novartis International AG is simply the world’s largest, multi-national pharmaceutical company with over $53 Billion USD revenue generated in 2008. It’s headquarters is located in Basel, Switzerland, home of the vaunted “Swiss Guards” who provide all security measures for the Vatican and the Club of Rome. The company logo symbolizes the “eternal flame” of the Illuminati “enlightened ones”. Dig into Novartis International AG’s long history, and one finds that it began as a component of the infamous I.G. Farben combine, which in turn was primarily responsible for the rise of Adolph Hitler and the German/Austrian Third Reich.<br />Dig a bit deeper and you find that Novartis also wholly owns a company called Sandoz  which was the inventor of LSD and other strong hallucinogenic “truth” drugs, and was the supplier of LSD to the CIA allowing them to scale new heights with their covert “MK ULTRA” mind control experiments. Documents released to U.S. Congressional investigators in 1977 show that Sandoz Labs had arranged for certain Nazi scientists to gain new identities in Allen Dulles’ CIA at the conclusion of WWII. This was accomplished under a secret extraction program called “Operation Paper Clip”.<br />The address listed on the Novartis Patent applications is a P.O. Box in Emeryville, California. Up until the summer of 2005, this Emeryville California address belonged to Chiron Inc.  the world’s second-largest INFLUENZA VACCINE MANUFACTURER. Chiron was doing very well, with reported sales of $357 million in fiscal 2002. Chiron’s sales nearly doubled, peaking at a whopping $678 million in 2003  and it was mostly due to the marketing and sale of FLU VACCINE CONTRACTS to the federal government. Novartis, which owned much of Chiron’s stock, was very pleased, until disaster struck in 2004 — the entire year’s stock of flu vaccine was found to be contaminated and was condemned.<br />Stock values plummeted on the news. With the stock at a historic low, Novartis quickly purchased the remainder of Chiron’s stock and began immediately to work on the massive “novel pandemic flu” vaccine that they somehow knew would soon have worldwide demand  especially if they controlled the exclusive patent they could effectively “corner the pandemic flu vaccine market”!!<br />OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES<br />I would submit that killing tens of thousands of innocent humans via the systemic creation of a “pandemic” in order to make billions of dollars is vile enough, but there is also evidence that there is an even more heinous hidden agenda at work here, and it is spelled GENOCIDE.<br />It is no mystery that Adolph Hitler advocated the elevation of a Nordic “Master Race” that would rule the world in a “New Order of the Ages” called the “Third Reich”. Sadly, not all of the EUGENIC/GENOCIDAL National Socialists were executed at Nuremburg.<br />In reality, the elite financiers that actually dictated the agenda to Hitler, merely went underground, willing to bide their time until their godless agenda to liquidate BILLIONS of people could be successfully implemented.<br />The evidence that the Novartis-controlled “Pandemic Vaccine” may well be a tool of mass genocide, is actually quite overwhelming.<br />At this point, some readers may scoff and ask: “Why would any company want to kill off their customers?” The answer is that these “customers” control large blocks of assets and equity. As Kissinger’s “NSSM-200″ report outlines, the “spoils” of genocide include controlling large tracts of land and mineral assets. This is secondary, of course, to their warped dream of creating a Utopian World Order with only 500 million “worthy” humans allowed to share in it.<br />WHAT’S THE EVIDENCE?<br />While George H.W. Bush was busy saving the world from the evil dictator Saddam Hussein in 1991, pursuant to his U.N. speech to create a “new world order” an agenda for an “Initiative for Eco-92 Earth Charter” elitist meeting happened to fall into honest, Christian hands. This agenda basically reiterated the genocide outlined in Henry Kissinger’s infamous NSSM-200 report of 1974, and called for “the immediate reduction of world population.” The entire report can be downloaded at:<br />My extensive research shows that by 1992, the massive death rate of AIDS had simply not materialized to the Elite’s satisfaction, and a more efficient mass killer had to be engineered in order to fulfill the edicts cut into the “Georgia Guidestones”.<br />Evidence shows that like the 2009 “Novel” Flu Virus the HIV virus was also engineered and manufactured in the labs of Ft. Detrick.<br />In 1969, during a House Appropriations Committee hearing, the Defense Department’s Biological Warfare (BW) division at Ft. Detrick requested funds to develop, through complex gene-splicing (i.e. genetic engineering) a “novel” new disease that would both be resistant to, and break down a victim’s immune system. The Congressional Record reads:<br />“Within the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases.”<br />The funds for this “Dr. Strangelove” project were somehow approved. AIDS “magically” appeared within the requested time frame, and of course, just happens to exhibit the exact characteristics specified by the Ft. Detrick scientists.<br />Three years later, in 1972, the fledgling World Health Organization (WHO) published a very similar proposal to the one submitted to the U.S. House Appropriations Committee in 1969. The WHO proposed that: “An attempt should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function, e.g., by …affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function. The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the immune cells responding to the viral antigens.” (Bulletin of the W.H.O., vol. 47, p 257- 274.) This is a “textbook” clinical description of the function of the HIV/AIDS virus.<br />The W.H.O. shortly thereafter begins a massive “smallpox vaccination” program in Africa in 1975. Within two years, millions of smallpox vaccines are provided by Novartis et. al, under U.N.I.C.E.F. funding. A decade later, it is determined by independent journalists in the U.K. that the incidence of AIDS infections’ MAPPED AND GRAPHED EPICENTERS in Africa coincided exactly with the locations of the W.H.O. smallpox vaccination program centers in the mid-1970’s (Source, The London Times, May 11, 1987). Some 14,000 Haitians then on UN ‘humanitarian missions’ to Central Africa were also vaccinated in this campaign, and soon contracted HIV. Personnel actually conducting the vaccinations of the Haitians maintain they had been completely unaware that the vaccine was anything other than a routine shot.<br />In 1987, Dr. Hilleman, head of all vaccine production of Merck Pharmaceuticals stunned the world with his public admissions that the mass vaccination campaigns of the 1950s and ’60s likely caused thousands of cancer deaths each year. This was due to the presence of a cancer-causing virus that contaminated the first polio vaccine, according to Dr. Hilleman. Known as SV40, the virus originated from dead monkeys whose kidney cells were used to culture the first Salk vaccines. Doctors estimate that the virus was injected into tens of millions during the vaccination campaigns, including several million in Canada, before being detected and screened out in 1963. Those born between 1941 and 1961 are thought to be most at risk of having been infected with SV40, and are estimated to have a 300% greater chance of developing cancer. According to Hilleman MERCK KNEW THE VACCINES WERE INFECTED WITH SV40, but distributed them anyway. See <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU</a><br />Furthermore, research doctors in New Orleans reported in 1963 that a percentage of the Salk polio vaccines were found to have attenuated, (live) viruses, which actually CAUSED tens of thousands of polio cases during the 1950’s.<br />Following the successful liberation of Kuwait in Operation Desert Storm, hundreds of thousands of victorious American troops are suddenly stricken with a wide variety of auto-immune disorders that doctors named the Gulf War Syndrome, (GWS). After a decade of medical investigation, the culprit is finally determined to be an ingredient in the anthrax vaccinations mandatorily given to the troops. This offending “adjuvant” is a synthetic material known as squalene  aka, oil-in-water adjuvant. Writer and Gulf War correspondent Gary Matsumoto documents this entire, tragic saga in his seminal book, “Vaccine-A”. See <a href="http://www.vaccine-a.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vaccine-a.com</a>.<br />Understanding these historical facts is very important for this reason: Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. This is doubly true when it comes to blindly accepting a “novel” mass vaccination for a weaponized, “reverse engineered” virus.<br />The historical record is very clear  attenuated, live viruses in vaccines SPREAD the disease very effectively. When combined with SQUALENE ADJUVANT  the virus becomes many times more potent and lethal. When given to CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS, millions of “typhoid Matts and Marys” will be spreading the disease exponentially.<br />Chillingly, the Novartis patent for the “novel pandemic flu” declares that “African green monkey kidney cells” will be used for the “viral growth substrate”  i.e. the carrier medium.<br />(Page 3, paragraph 0037) We also see that “oil-in-water” squalene-based adjuvants will also be included (page 8 ¬ 0098) but most incredible of all, because this is a “recombinant” and “novel” split vaccine, it is deemed necessary to include fragments of attenuated viruses (i.e. live pathogens) in the vaccine medium.<br />On July 13, 2009, the W.H.O. sanctioned this lunacy by declaring: “In view of the anticipated limited vaccine availability at global level and the potential need to protect against “drifted” strains of virus, it is recommended that promoting production and use of vaccines such as those that are formulated with oil-in-water adjuvants and live attenuated influenza vaccines is important.”<br />In conclusion and summation, it should be evident that the “2009 Swine Flu” could just as easily be called the “Bird Flu”  because it is as much H5N1 (bird flu) as H1N1 (pig flu.) Novartis knew this in 2005 when it received hundreds of millions of dollars from Mike Leavitt’s HHS to develop and patent the “bird flu” vaccine. I publicly charge that Novartis had advance knowledge of this “combination” because they had been in consultation with Jeffrey Taubenberger for years.<br />It is further evident that Novartis’ patent provides for “influenza vaccine kits” to be provided to other pharmaceutical manufacturers as well. These “kits” are the basic raw ingredients needed for the other companies to build their own vaccines under their own label.<br />In 2005, this “jobbing” of separate ingredients by multiple companies would never have been allowed because of the legal liability issues involved. However, in 2009, all liabilities for death and disability from faulty or contaminated vaccines have been stripped away. Any wrongful death or disability lawsuits against Novartis or any other company will today be summarily dismissed.<br />Novartis today has carte blanche blanket immunity for their actions  and any large pharmaceutical company who so desires, can join them at the feeding troughs just by paying millions for their “kits”.<br />If this isn’t the pinnacle of criminality, then I don’t know what is.<br />Novartis, if this “novel split vaccine” is so wonderful and safe, why do you require such blanket protection from litigation?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rapid spread of 2009 H1N1 virus can be explained in at least two ways: most of the population has no immunity to this new strain, and airline travel is very efficient at bringing viruses around the globe.</description>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I would like to know is how it hit so fast so hard. I live in Quebec which is obviously nowhere near Mexico and in a matter of a week the H1N1 Virus is all over the place. apparently like 28 people in Montreal have died. I&#039;m not exactly sure if that&#039;s just this week or what but it&#039;s quite disturbing. I just ran into a friend out on the street and his wife and 2 daughters have it.  it&#039;s kind of nerve racking cuz I myself have a wife and 2 kids, a 1 yo and a 5 yo.  In addition to all that biblical bull crap  which keeps popping up....no god would kill the innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would like to know is how it hit so fast so hard. I live in Quebec which is obviously nowhere near Mexico and in a matter of a week the H1N1 Virus is all over the place. apparently like 28 people in Montreal have died. I&#39;m not exactly sure if that&#39;s just this week or what but it&#39;s quite disturbing. I just ran into a friend out on the street and his wife and 2 daughters have it.  it&#39;s kind of nerve racking cuz I myself have a wife and 2 kids, a 1 yo and a 5 yo.  In addition to all that biblical bull crap  which keeps popping up&#8230;.no god would kill the innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: RogerV</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thankfully in Aug. 2008 Baxter was awarded patent US 20090060950A1, just in time to be licensed to five or so companies that are now manufacturing it for the March/April 2009 outbreak of H1N1.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So if it took from 1918 to 2009 for the current H1N1 pandemic to show up on the scene, evidently a benevolent hidden hand provided for a patented vaccine to be developed just in the nick of time for this 2009 emergence. Aren&#039;t we the most lucky folks in the universe to have such fortuitous coincidences fall in our laps like this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sort of reminds me of how a visa of one of the 9-11 perpetrators was found unscathed in the rubble of the WTC twin towers. It&#039;s always fascinating how the major historical crisis of our era are accompanied by these miraculous occurrences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thankfully in Aug. 2008 Baxter was awarded patent US 20090060950A1, just in time to be licensed to five or so companies that are now manufacturing it for the March/April 2009 outbreak of H1N1.</p>
<p>So if it took from 1918 to 2009 for the current H1N1 pandemic to show up on the scene, evidently a benevolent hidden hand provided for a patented vaccine to be developed just in the nick of time for this 2009 emergence. Aren&#39;t we the most lucky folks in the universe to have such fortuitous coincidences fall in our laps like this?</p>
<p>Sort of reminds me of how a visa of one of the 9-11 perpetrators was found unscathed in the rubble of the WTC twin towers. It&#39;s always fascinating how the major historical crisis of our era are accompanied by these miraculous occurrences.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The theory on why pigs are infected with different types of influenza virus - mainly avian and human - is that the respiratory tract of the pig has receptors for both types of virus. It has nothing to do with &#039;living in filth&#039; or unsanitary living conditions. Influenza virus entered pigs in 1918 - probably when an infected human gave the virus to a pig on a farm - and has been in pigs ever since, transmitted not only among pigs raised for food, but also among feral pigs. The virus is transmitted in the same way as it is among humans - mainly by respiratory aerosol, some contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The theory on why pigs are infected with different types of influenza virus &#8211; mainly avian and human &#8211; is that the respiratory tract of the pig has receptors for both types of virus. It has nothing to do with &#39;living in filth&#39; or unsanitary living conditions. Influenza virus entered pigs in 1918 &#8211; probably when an infected human gave the virus to a pig on a farm &#8211; and has been in pigs ever since, transmitted not only among pigs raised for food, but also among feral pigs. The virus is transmitted in the same way as it is among humans &#8211; mainly by respiratory aerosol, some contact.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simply not a matter of mixing three or four different viruses together and seeing what comes out. This has been happening in pigs for years and it took from 1918 to 2009 for the right combination of genes and mutations to produce a virus to infect humans. This cannot be replicated in the laboratory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s simply not a matter of mixing three or four different viruses together and seeing what comes out. This has been happening in pigs for years and it took from 1918 to 2009 for the right combination of genes and mutations to produce a virus to infect humans. This cannot be replicated in the laboratory.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18088</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now the NY Times reports that the First Daughters have received their 2009 H1N1 vaccine: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/1eTpgK&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/1eTpgK&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now the NY Times reports that the First Daughters have received their 2009 H1N1 vaccine: <a href="http://bit.ly/1eTpgK" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1eTpgK</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christine P</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18086</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that pigs are infected with all these different types of influenza? Could any of this have to do with poor care and unsanitary living conditions of the animals. Could they be getting sick from living in filth, having open wounds that become infected, abuse, or neglect? Living in disgustingly horrible living conditions and getting sick, then being left untreated. Could that be the cause of this influenza? Where would the original infected pig get the virus from? I guess I really want to know if this could have anything to do with animal abuse and neglect? Maybe one pig died and its corpse became infected and infected the other pigs, which then infected the farmer, is this possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that pigs are infected with all these different types of influenza? Could any of this have to do with poor care and unsanitary living conditions of the animals. Could they be getting sick from living in filth, having open wounds that become infected, abuse, or neglect? Living in disgustingly horrible living conditions and getting sick, then being left untreated. Could that be the cause of this influenza? Where would the original infected pig get the virus from? I guess I really want to know if this could have anything to do with animal abuse and neglect? Maybe one pig died and its corpse became infected and infected the other pigs, which then infected the farmer, is this possible?</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18076</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is dated? Of course it is - it describes the emergence of an influenza virus in 1977. It has nothing to do with the 2009 swine-origin influenza virus. As for the first daughters - they are certainly part of the at-risk pediatric population and I would be surprised if they did not eventually receive the vaccine. Here at the medical center we are technically all at risk yet no H1N1 vaccine has yet come our way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is dated? Of course it is &#8211; it describes the emergence of an influenza virus in 1977. It has nothing to do with the 2009 swine-origin influenza virus. As for the first daughters &#8211; they are certainly part of the at-risk pediatric population and I would be surprised if they did not eventually receive the vaccine. Here at the medical center we are technically all at risk yet no H1N1 vaccine has yet come our way.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18074</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is your choice whether to immunize you or your children against 2009 H1N1 influenza. There is no squalene in the US vaccine, and you can request the thimerisal-free, single dose version of the vaccine. Children appear to be at high risk for H1N1 influenza this year; do you wish to expose them to that risk? Deciding whether to immunize is always a matter of balancing the risks and benefits. In my view the risks of contracting fatal influenza far outweigh possible side effects of the vaccine. Then there is the fact that the more who are immunized, the less the virus will be able to spread. It requires a bit of altruistic behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is your choice whether to immunize you or your children against 2009 H1N1 influenza. There is no squalene in the US vaccine, and you can request the thimerisal-free, single dose version of the vaccine. Children appear to be at high risk for H1N1 influenza this year; do you wish to expose them to that risk? Deciding whether to immunize is always a matter of balancing the risks and benefits. In my view the risks of contracting fatal influenza far outweigh possible side effects of the vaccine. Then there is the fact that the more who are immunized, the less the virus will be able to spread. It requires a bit of altruistic behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18071</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The virus emerged initially in China and Russia, so it&#039;s highly unlikely to have come from the US. No conspiracy or germ warfare theories, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The virus emerged initially in China and Russia, so it&#39;s highly unlikely to have come from the US. No conspiracy or germ warfare theories, please.</p>
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		<title>By: profvrr</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18070</link>
		<dc:creator>profvrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your estimate is more like a guess. On what is it based? Scientists are not chicken; they prefer to use scientific method to test hypotheses. This problem is not testable given the enormous number of viruses and hosts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your estimate is more like a guess. On what is it based? Scientists are not chicken; they prefer to use scientific method to test hypotheses. This problem is not testable given the enormous number of viruses and hosts.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18057</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the theories I have read, this is the one that I myself truly believe in. The planet will go through its normal evolutionary changes. The problem is, we have gotten too smart to accept that, so we try to make excuses for what is inevitable which is the growth and normal changes of the planet. Face it, we weren&#039;t the first ones on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the theories I have read, this is the one that I myself truly believe in. The planet will go through its normal evolutionary changes. The problem is, we have gotten too smart to accept that, so we try to make excuses for what is inevitable which is the growth and normal changes of the planet. Face it, we weren&#39;t the first ones on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: RogerV</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18038</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The appearance of this report over in Germany created a bit of a stir there couple weeks back:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;German army gets special swine flu vaccine without controversial additives given to general public&lt;br&gt;Published on 10-13-2009&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blacklistednews.com/?news_id=5925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.blacklistednews.com/?news_id=5925&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appearance of this report over in Germany created a bit of a stir there couple weeks back:</p>
<p>German army gets special swine flu vaccine without controversial additives given to general public<br />Published on 10-13-2009<br /><a href="http://www.blacklistednews.com/?news_id=5925" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacklistednews.com/?news_id=5925</a></p>
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		<title>By: RogerV</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2009/03/02/origin-of-current-influenza-h1n1-virus/comment-page-3/#comment-18037</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is a bit dated, but have heard nothing that would indicate anything that is otherwise - especially in light of Obama now declaring H1N1 a national emergency:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1&lt;br&gt;Posted By Anne Marie Riha On October 8, 2009 @ 3:01 pm In White House&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/10/08/first-daughters-not-vaccinated-against-h1n1/print/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/10/08/...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is a bit dated, but have heard nothing that would indicate anything that is otherwise &#8211; especially in light of Obama now declaring H1N1 a national emergency:</p>
<p>First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1<br />Posted By Anne Marie Riha On October 8, 2009 @ 3:01 pm In White House<br /><a href="http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/10/08/first-daughters-not-vaccinated-against-h1n1/print/" rel="nofollow">http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/10/08/&#8230;</a></p>
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