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	<title>Comments on: Are Viruses Living?</title>
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30944</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only to the lito know it alls
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30943</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im twelve and I say shad up</description>
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		<title>By: Trulyjewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30886</link>
		<dc:creator>Trulyjewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I think a parasite would definitely be living.</description>
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		<title>By: Trulyjewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30885</link>
		<dc:creator>Trulyjewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although coral is a rock that is alive!</description>
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		<title>By: Trulyjewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30884</link>
		<dc:creator>Trulyjewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could atoms be said to be alive? I suppose not. Yet, living organisms consist solely of atoms. Maybe a virus is like an atom and it&#039;s the fluid communicative aspect of all earth&#039;s DNA. This is based on New Scientist issue 2671 Aug 2008 with an article by Garry Hamilton in Washington about how it turns out that approx. 10% of EVERY organism&#039;s DNA (human and animal) is viral - meaning it got left there by a virus. A virus brought in some DNA from another organism and place and left some DNA behind. So, they&#039;re a kind of fluid communicative aspect of all earth&#039;s DNA, as I said above. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could atoms be said to be alive? I suppose not. Yet, living organisms consist solely of atoms. Maybe a virus is like an atom and it&#8217;s the fluid communicative aspect of all earth&#8217;s DNA. This is based on New Scientist issue 2671 Aug 2008 with an article by Garry Hamilton in Washington about how it turns out that approx. 10% of EVERY organism&#8217;s DNA (human and animal) is viral &#8211; meaning it got left there by a virus. A virus brought in some DNA from another organism and place and left some DNA behind. So, they&#8217;re a kind of fluid communicative aspect of all earth&#8217;s DNA, as I said above. </p>
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		<title>By: Trulyjewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30883</link>
		<dc:creator>Trulyjewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good case for viruses not &quot;living&quot; - they are passive and they don&#039;t do anything. Any observable feats are thanks to automatic happenings in the environment. They are balls of protein casing with some nucleic acids in the middle. Does that mean they don&#039;t respire or have any energy? What if when ammassing in a host they can be seen as a community and as such behave with intelligence - at least there is some intention, even if coming direct from their DNA programming. So, they&#039;re not conscious individually, and each one is so incredibly small that I suppose it&#039;s not far off an atom, so you would imagine you were talking about a unit in a larger entity anyway. So, that larger entity which behaves with intention - to take over - might be more &quot;alive&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good case for viruses not &#8220;living&#8221; &#8211; they are passive and they don&#8217;t do anything. Any observable feats are thanks to automatic happenings in the environment. They are balls of protein casing with some nucleic acids in the middle. Does that mean they don&#8217;t respire or have any energy? What if when ammassing in a host they can be seen as a community and as such behave with intelligence &#8211; at least there is some intention, even if coming direct from their DNA programming. So, they&#8217;re not conscious individually, and each one is so incredibly small that I suppose it&#8217;s not far off an atom, so you would imagine you were talking about a unit in a larger entity anyway. So, that larger entity which behaves with intention &#8211; to take over &#8211; might be more &#8220;alive&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gr8lilbro</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30870</link>
		<dc:creator>Gr8lilbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx no more home work for me;] i go to prms matthew
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx no more home work for me;] i go to prms matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Hyhjjjhhmj</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30844</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyhjjjhhmj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SoUtHS1D3 :.13</description>
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		<title>By: person</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30797</link>
		<dc:creator>person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people i&#039;m 11 and i know viruses aren&#039;t living. the only thing that shows they posiibly might be is that they reproduce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people i&#8217;m 11 and i know viruses aren&#8217;t living. the only thing that shows they posiibly might be is that they reproduce</p>
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		<title>By: Pritchare</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30712</link>
		<dc:creator>Pritchare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for taking your time to help us understand that if it is living or not living 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for taking your time to help us understand that if it is living or not living </p>
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		<title>By: lilly</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30711</link>
		<dc:creator>lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why are you even looking up the information anyways. why don&#039;t you just  grow up and know what to say when to say it </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why are you even looking up the information anyways. why don&#8217;t you just  grow up and know what to say when to say it </p>
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		<title>By: Kaykay</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30575</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaykay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great but needed more examples why they aren&#039;t living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great but needed more examples why they aren&#8217;t living.</p>
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		<title>By: Anionix54</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30524</link>
		<dc:creator>Anionix54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe viruses are even smarter than we are? They are more successful organisms than us. They exist nearly everywhere, places we cant. They use us to transport them places. They use us to reproduce. and they kill us.. We have their DNA and RNA in our cells from the past.

I know the dictionary definition doesn&#039;t quite fit them, however definitions change. At one point we believed that flying was only for birds, then we changed our minds. Maybe, just maybe we may have to change that definition to fit viruses. When it comes down to it, they do replicate. They need a cell just like semen needs an egg!

At the end of the day, are viruses alive? it comes down to personal opinion. There is no fact either way, like say a rock-a rock is not alive, end of, but viruses..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe viruses are even smarter than we are? They are more successful organisms than us. They exist nearly everywhere, places we cant. They use us to transport them places. They use us to reproduce. and they kill us.. We have their DNA and RNA in our cells from the past.</p>
<p>I know the dictionary definition doesn&#8217;t quite fit them, however definitions change. At one point we believed that flying was only for birds, then we changed our minds. Maybe, just maybe we may have to change that definition to fit viruses. When it comes down to it, they do replicate. They need a cell just like semen needs an egg!</p>
<p>At the end of the day, are viruses alive? it comes down to personal opinion. There is no fact either way, like say a rock-a rock is not alive, end of, but viruses&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30321</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Gdog i think viruses are alive. viruses are dorment when they arent in a cell it doesnt mean they arent alive. when in the dorment stage they are in a crystal form. when they get into their right environment they become active. true they need a host but they have the ability to minipulate the cell into giving it materials and energy to grow. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well Gdog i think viruses are alive. viruses are dorment when they arent in a cell it doesnt mean they arent alive. when in the dorment stage they are in a crystal form. when they get into their right environment they become active. true they need a host but they have the ability to minipulate the cell into giving it materials and energy to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Shan Ali solangi</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30254</link>
		<dc:creator>Shan Ali solangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is virus  male? if it is female or if it is a male then has virus female ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is virus  male? if it is female or if it is a male then has virus female ?</p>
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		<title>By: Natnell_97</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30222</link>
		<dc:creator>Natnell_97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do veruse fulfil the most basic charictest of life

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		<title>By: Natnell</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30221</link>
		<dc:creator>Natnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is virues non living
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		<title>By: GDOG1085</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30214</link>
		<dc:creator>GDOG1085</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tony screw everybody else u r right and u know IT  oh yeah viruses do NOT  have ATP
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tony screw everybody else u r right and u know IT  oh yeah viruses do NOT  have ATP</p>
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		<title>By: GDOG1085</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30213</link>
		<dc:creator>GDOG1085</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO
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		<title>By: Science for Ransom</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30176</link>
		<dc:creator>Science for Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then are Rickettsia also non-living because they are intracellular obligate parasites? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then are Rickettsia also non-living because they are intracellular obligate parasites?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaganmusafir</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30175</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaganmusafir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is viruses a dead or living






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is viruses a dead or living</p>
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		<title>By: cool</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30015</link>
		<dc:creator>cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so if your saying that viruses are not living, then you support the theory of spontaneous generation? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if your saying that viruses are not living, then you support the theory of spontaneous generation? </p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-30009</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Racaniello, I asked you a question 8 months ago - an important question, concerning viral replication and the energy released by a virus when its chemical bonds are broken (the only disposable energy that a particular virus has). I would appreciate an answer from you when you have the time as it is an pertinent  scientific question. Here, is the question again:

Viral replication is allegedly a process which takes place under definite and specifiable conditions. Therefore, if virus particles release energy say, during virus entry, what precisely are the conditions which determine that the released energy will be used in viral replication and not something else? I also asked you for some criticisms whether constructive or destructive of my post (9 months ago)regarding the problem of teleology etc in the explanation of the process of viral replication/infection.I would appreciate your answers/comments to these issues when you have the time.Best regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Racaniello, I asked you a question 8 months ago - an important question, concerning viral replication and the energy released by a virus when its chemical bonds are broken (the only disposable energy that a particular virus has). I would appreciate an answer from you when you have the time as it is an pertinent  scientific question. Here, is the question again:</p>
<p>Viral replication is allegedly a process which takes place under definite and specifiable conditions. Therefore, if virus particles release energy say, during virus entry, what precisely are the conditions which determine that the released energy will be used in viral replication and not something else? I also asked you for some criticisms whether constructive or destructive of my post (9 months ago)regarding the problem of teleology etc in the explanation of the process of viral replication/infection.I would appreciate your answers/comments to these issues when you have the time.Best regards</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29830</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thay have not. Nobody has produced any strong evidence to suggest that they have, and that includes the speculative stuff pertaining to their alleged existence in fossil record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thay have not. Nobody has produced any strong evidence to suggest that they have, and that includes the speculative stuff pertaining to their alleged existence in fossil record.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29829</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viruses can&#039;t &#039;use&#039; anything if they are not living - they have no effective means of doing that, perhaps that&#039;s why Prof Racaniello says that viruses don&#039;t actually &#039;do&#039; anything, as its alleged to be all about Newtonian chemical reaction mechanisms both inside and outside of the host cells. 

If the  the human body is conceived as a type of physical machine that runs in accordance with Newtonian principles, then that position requires viruses to &#039;function&#039; in the host body in a similar manner. However, the whole process of viral infection/reproduction is problematic as it currently stands for a number of different reasons that I have discussed in other posts.

Viruses reproduce squat - you are correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viruses can&#8217;t &#8216;use&#8217; anything if they are not living &#8211; they have no effective means of doing that, perhaps that&#8217;s why Prof Racaniello says that viruses don&#8217;t actually &#8216;do&#8217; anything, as its alleged to be all about Newtonian chemical reaction mechanisms both inside and outside of the host cells. </p>
<p>If the  the human body is conceived as a type of physical machine that runs in accordance with Newtonian principles, then that position requires viruses to &#8216;function&#8217; in the host body in a similar manner. However, the whole process of viral infection/reproduction is problematic as it currently stands for a number of different reasons that I have discussed in other posts.</p>
<p>Viruses reproduce squat &#8211; you are correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Gdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you tony. im tired of peaple saying they reproduce and they are alive. if anyone doesnt beleive me buy mcmillians &quot;life science&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you tony. im tired of peaple saying they reproduce and they are alive. if anyone doesnt beleive me buy mcmillians &#8220;life science&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gdog</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29819</link>
		<dc:creator>Gdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude they dont reproduce the cell does. they ejecy rna and dna into the cell forcing it to reproduce wich proves they are not living!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude they dont reproduce the cell does. they ejecy rna and dna into the cell forcing it to reproduce wich proves they are not living!</p>
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		<title>By: gdog</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29818</link>
		<dc:creator>gdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, i just want to settle this once and for all. viruses are not living! they have to use a &quot;host&quot; cell by ejecting dna and rna into the cell and forceing it to make clones, so the cell reproduces not the viruses wich proves it is not living
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, i just want to settle this once and for all. viruses are not living! they have to use a &#8220;host&#8221; cell by ejecting dna and rna into the cell and forceing it to make clones, so the cell reproduces not the viruses wich proves it is not living</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29786</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re cool. Why not be a cocky ass somewhere else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re cool. Why not be a cocky ass somewhere else?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29778</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how have they existed over the eons?
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		<title>By: biggz tmg</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29774</link>
		<dc:creator>biggz tmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K.. so you guys feel nice because you know this and your only 11 and 10? nobody gives a fuck!!!!1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K.. so you guys feel nice because you know this and your only 11 and 10? nobody gives a fuck!!!!1</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29742</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on how you define &#039;matter&#039; Proto - are you implying that electron fields etc have no substantiality?. For example, what is meant by &#039;completely immaterial&#039; - do you mean &#039;nonphysical&#039; or &#039;nonsubstantial&#039; &gt; If energy has no substance or materiality we are talking about abstractions pure and simple. What about grades of substance less dense than physical matter at the subquantum level but matter all the same? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on how you define &#8216;matter&#8217; Proto &#8211; are you implying that electron fields etc have no substantiality?. For example, what is meant by &#8216;completely immaterial&#8217; &#8211; do you mean &#8216;nonphysical&#8217; or &#8216;nonsubstantial&#8217; &gt; If energy has no substance or materiality we are talking about abstractions pure and simple. What about grades of substance less dense than physical matter at the subquantum level but matter all the same? </p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29734</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 10 and I know that!</description>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29733</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats What Shee Said!</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!  

Still no response from Prof. Racaniello. Would have appreciated some constructive (or destructive) criticisms!</description>
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<p>Still no response from Prof. Racaniello. Would have appreciated some constructive (or destructive) criticisms!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jillian for that brilliant refutation of my position! 

Perhaps you can explain to me in scientific terms precisely how the host cells are constrained to function so that they really do reproduce an &#039;active virus&#039; and not something else. Secondly, in what way is a virus &#039;active&#039; and what methods are used to determine that there is indeed an &#039;active virus&#039; present as opposed to something else that may be causing the cell to produce particles that may look like viruses but are not?

 &#039;Injecting its genetics&#039; by the way, even if we concede that a virus could do that, may not be sufficient to secure the viral reproduction/infection process  in the host that is usually blamed for causing a certain disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jillian for that brilliant refutation of my position! </p>
<p>Perhaps you can explain to me in scientific terms precisely how the host cells are constrained to function so that they really do reproduce an &#8216;active virus&#8217; and not something else. Secondly, in what way is a virus &#8216;active&#8217; and what methods are used to determine that there is indeed an &#8216;active virus&#8217; present as opposed to something else that may be causing the cell to produce particles that may look like viruses but are not?</p>
<p> &#8217;Injecting its genetics&#8217; by the way, even if we concede that a virus could do that, may not be sufficient to secure the viral reproduction/infection process  in the host that is usually blamed for causing a certain disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29700</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm ok for ur information they can reproduce! The way them landing on a living cell and ingecting its genetics into the cell and it then forms into more viruses.Thank you very much and thats only for active viruses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm ok for ur information they can reproduce! The way them landing on a living cell and ingecting its genetics into the cell and it then forms into more viruses.Thank you very much and thats only for active viruses!</p>
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		<title>By: Karibu&#039;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29682</link>
		<dc:creator>Karibu&#039;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are viruses considered living? What are the arguments? Why is there not a straight forward answer? they are not living things because the can not do anything without a cell and they need it to multiply. http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are viruses considered living? What are the arguments? Why is there not a straight forward answer? they are not living things because the can not do anything without a cell and they need it to multiply. http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29612</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question Andrew. Insofar as materialistic science is concerned which is also reductionist - all cellular life is just an accumulation of chemical reactions that are organized in some form or other. That is all there is to it until one comes to try and explain precisely what organizes the chemical reactions and the energies and forces involved in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question Andrew. Insofar as materialistic science is concerned which is also reductionist - all cellular life is just an accumulation of chemical reactions that are organized in some form or other. That is all there is to it until one comes to try and explain precisely what organizes the chemical reactions and the energies and forces involved in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Broadbent</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-2/#comment-29597</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Broadbent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you count Chlamydia trachomatis as alive?? It is an obligate intracellular parasite that can&#039;t replicate without a host-cell, but it&#039;s a bacterium and metabolically active and divides by binary fission- but it&#039;s metabolic pathways are incomplete, hence its reliance on a host cell. Isn&#039;t  all cellular life just an accumulation of chemical reactions? why are viruses different?You could also argue that viruses react to stimuli (latency Vs reactivation triggers), and &quot;reproduce&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you count Chlamydia trachomatis as alive?? It is an obligate intracellular parasite that can&#8217;t replicate without a host-cell, but it&#8217;s a bacterium and metabolically active and divides by binary fission- but it&#8217;s metabolic pathways are incomplete, hence its reliance on a host cell. Isn&#8217;t  all cellular life just an accumulation of chemical reactions? why are viruses different?You could also argue that viruses react to stimuli (latency Vs reactivation triggers), and &#8220;reproduce&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: person</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29581</link>
		<dc:creator>person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>things do occur when a virus is not infecting a host, particularly within DNA viruses (poxviruses, simian virus 40)-- chromatin rearrangement, basal level transciptional regulation, tegument protein packaging (herpes simplex)... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>things do occur when a virus is not infecting a host, particularly within DNA viruses (poxviruses, simian virus 40)&#8211; chromatin rearrangement, basal level transciptional regulation, tegument protein packaging (herpes simplex)&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: swaggerful</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29504</link>
		<dc:creator>swaggerful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ikr... it sort of answered my homework but im still not sure...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ikr&#8230; it sort of answered my homework but im still not sure&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Thinking</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29499</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are inactive</description>
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		<title>By: Kght55</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29483</link>
		<dc:creator>Kght55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, this will help me on my science project</description>
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		<title>By: Contagion, 2011 medical thriller starring Matt Damon</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29443</link>
		<dc:creator>Contagion, 2011 medical thriller starring Matt Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are viruses living? &#8211; article on Virology [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29438</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way that viruses in general are currently defined and allegedly &#039;function&#039; is problematic, despite the fact that the vast majority of microbiologists see no problem(s) at all. 

There is no &#039;border&#039; between biotic and abiotic where viruses can be conveniently placed, and to imply that they have been proven to evolve over time without metabolism and energy via natural selection is simply science fiction. Only living organisms have been found to evolve and according to most virologists and microbiologists viruses are not living organisms in the strict sense. Claims have been made that viruses have been &#039;found&#039; in the fossil record but such claims have not stood up to rigorous scientific scrutiny.

In a nutshell, what viruses actually are and how they really operate can never be completely understood and explained within the current scientific framework which merely contents itself with the study of the physical appearances and chemical composition of bits of genetic material (and their deleterious effects on susceptible host cells in the case of alleged &#039;pathogenic&#039; viruses).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that viruses in general are currently defined and allegedly &#8216;function&#8217; is problematic, despite the fact that the vast majority of microbiologists see no problem(s) at all. </p>
<p>There is no &#8216;border&#8217; between biotic and abiotic where viruses can be conveniently placed, and to imply that they have been proven to evolve over time without metabolism and energy via natural selection is simply science fiction. Only living organisms have been found to evolve and according to most virologists and microbiologists viruses are not living organisms in the strict sense. Claims have been made that viruses have been &#8216;found&#8217; in the fossil record but such claims have not stood up to rigorous scientific scrutiny.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, what viruses actually are and how they really operate can never be completely understood and explained within the current scientific framework which merely contents itself with the study of the physical appearances and chemical composition of bits of genetic material (and their deleterious effects on susceptible host cells in the case of alleged &#8217;pathogenic&#8217; viruses).<br />
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		<title>By: Virology Department</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29387</link>
		<dc:creator>Virology Department</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viruses are on the border of being biotic and abiotic,  although they do not metabolize nor do they obtain and use energy they contain a genetic code wether it&#039;s DNA or RNA.  Viruses have also been proven to evolve over time which means it undergoes natural selection. Virus are living, but just barely. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viruses are on the border of being biotic and abiotic,  although they do not metabolize nor do they obtain and use energy they contain a genetic code wether it&#8217;s DNA or RNA.  Viruses have also been proven to evolve over time which means it undergoes natural selection. Virus are living, but just barely. </p>
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		<title>By: hotie24467</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29385</link>
		<dc:creator>hotie24467</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dang lots of words but useful words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks
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		<title>By: big mama</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29384</link>
		<dc:creator>big mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go girl!!!!
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		<title>By: big mama</title>
		<link>http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/comment-page-1/#comment-29383</link>
		<dc:creator>big mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is very useful info. now i can do my report on this topic. i have got all i need right here</description>
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